Everyone remember at the end of ‘Its a wonderful life’ where the bank clerk Eustace is counting the money on the table from the basket of money dumped there? He picks up a bill, hits the key on the register, and you hear a ‘cha-ching’ sound? One right after the other?
And little Zuzu says…
“Every time a bell rings an angel gets his wings.”
I wont be able to watch that scene anymore without thinking of our government, and police, raking in the money as they arrest unsuspecting people hoping to engage in legal hookups and dating.
I imagine some police person, who may, but likely will not, have a conscience and concern over ramifications from their accusations, pressing the cash register button with every online reply to a proactive ICAC sting.
After all, they make approximately $100,000 per conviction right? CHA-CHING!!
Some good news is that I am seeing a number of Judges balking these practices. Like these comments on a previous case:
BARRINGTON D. PARKER, Circuit Judge:
This is a case about the line between fantasy and criminal intent. HN1[] Although it is increasingly challenging to identify that line in the Internet age, it still exists and it must be rationally discernible in order to ensure that “a person’s inclinations and fantasies are his own and beyond the reach of the government.” Jacobson v. United States, 503 U.S. 540, 551-52, 112 S. Ct. 1535, 118 L. Ed. 2d 174 (1992)
We are loath to give the government the power to punish us for our thoughts and not our actions. Stanley v. Georgia, 394 U.S. 557, 565, 89 S. Ct. 1243, 22 L. Ed. 2d 542 (1969). That includes the power to criminalize an individual’s expression of sexual fantasies, no matter how perverse or disturbing. Fantasizing about committing a crime, even a crime of violence against a real person whom you know, is not a crime.
This does [**4] not mean that fantasies are harmless. To the contrary, fantasies of violence against women are both a symptom of and a contributor to a culture of exploitation, a massive social harm that demeans women. Yet we must not forget that in a free and functioning society, not every harm is meant to be addressed with the federal criminal law. Because “[t]he link between fantasy and intent is too tenuous for fantasy [alone] to be probative,” United States v. Curtin, 489 F.3d 935, 961 (9th Cir. 2007)
Can’t those with power find ways to keep people safe, without infringing on rights or ruining young, naive men’s lives?
There have been times in my life when I have had thoughts about subjects that are illegal. And I’m not talking about Jaywalking… I’m trying to imagine if I had ever discussed those thoughts with someone online or in person, and they turned out to be an undercover police officer, who egged me on, played on my emotions, and got me to go deeper into why I wanted to do what I talked about, even though it was really just a fantasy. This whole thing seems ludicrous to me, within the scope of your talk and your imagination you know boundaries, but it feels so good to fantasize about life in another world.
Amen….we all do it. He without sin, throw the stone. Everyone one, one by one hung their head & walked away. Jesus asked the woman. “Woman where are thou accusers? She answered, they all left. Not one stone was thrown bec they all knew that they all did wrong, they all lived in sin. Our thoughts can really be off the chain in the sex department but it does not mean we will do those things outside the law. Grown people can do grown things with other grown people I hope. 1 man got 5 years in prison in North Carolina for having oral sex with his wife abt 25 years ago.
Good to hear there’s a slow change on the horizon!
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Sally Girl you are a TRUE warrior. May God be with you, stand by you as you make right this very wrong injustice. 💖💕
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There have been times in my life when I have had thoughts about subjects that are illegal. And I’m not talking about Jaywalking… I’m trying to imagine if I had ever discussed those thoughts with someone online or in person, and they turned out to be an undercover police officer, who egged me on, played on my emotions, and got me to go deeper into why I wanted to do what I talked about, even though it was really just a fantasy. This whole thing seems ludicrous to me, within the scope of your talk and your imagination you know boundaries, but it feels so good to fantasize about life in another world.
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Amen….we all do it. He without sin, throw the stone. Everyone one, one by one hung their head & walked away. Jesus asked the woman. “Woman where are thou accusers? She answered, they all left. Not one stone was thrown bec they all knew that they all did wrong, they all lived in sin. Our thoughts can really be off the chain in the sex department but it does not mean we will do those things outside the law. Grown people can do grown things with other grown people I hope. 1 man got 5 years in prison in North Carolina for having oral sex with his wife abt 25 years ago.
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