One thing I’ve been struggling with, in my mind, is the part where law enforcement found the ‘attempted’ loophole.

A current ‘attempted’ crime is one in which a person takes a ‘substantial step’ toward committing. You can’t just say ‘I want to kill Joe….’ you have to then do something about it – to make it ‘attempted’.

But here’s the thing that gets me, and why these proactive stings, as a business plan, are such a lucrative venture!!

Who doesn’t want to have sex??

Lets say you are a police officer…you work hard to do your job, and it’s a HARD job. You take a lot of shit and disrespect on a daily basis from John Q Public. You work your cases in the children’s sexual assault unit and are able to convict a few bad guys. But the system is so rigged against you – shaky witnesses, prosecutors who only want to take sure wins for political gain, victims who refuse to press charges.

You think to yourself, persons seeking minors take a LOT of time to find…they don’t use their own names, ages, locations, or pictures. Nefarious persons are guarded, easy to spook, cautious about all they say and do. Those persons know what is legal and what is not. Getting them to openly cross a line is difficult at best. Can you catch such a person? Yes, of course you can, but maybe not with the caliber of officers at WSP. Or maybe not with the caliber of officers who find no ethical dilemma in entrapping another human being.

So you push the envelope and start crossing the line, just a little, to see how what you can actually get away with….

Let’s do some comparisons – Say you are online playing a video game where the player who robs the most banks wins. You are doing well and bragging in the game chat how good you are at robbing banks, and how you like to shoot as many guards as you can. In this game shooting guards give bonuses but, you don’t have to say that in the chat because everyone else in the chat is playing the same game – they already know why.

You have an open carry license which is legal in your state. As a red blooded american, you are always packing.

Like clockwork, the next payday you drive to the bank to deposit your check. Upon entering the bank you are tackled and arrested….

Now this is not a proactive sting being run by any officers at this time but…the facts remain the same. You were online talking about robbing banks and shooting guards. The fact that you would never shoot another person unless you were in mortal danger is not a fact the prosecutor brings up. They bring up how you brag about ENJOYING killing those guards! “And then the defendant took the substantial step of driving, with a loaded weapon, to a bank where he planned to rob and kill’

Having friends who say you would never do this means nothing. In the state of WA, and many others, driving to a potential crime scene IS a predisposition. You don’t NEED the money from robbing a bank, but of course you like money – same as our men don’t need or want sex from a minor but sex in general is great, right?

Everything in their proactive sting is done in a way to make you say and do the only things necessary to prove you had even some intent or predisposition. That’s really all they need to twist the facts, isn’t it?

‘Attempted’.

Attempted to me is similar to ‘bi-monthly’. There are two valid, but different definitions. Bi-monthly can mean twice a month, or it can mean every two months. Big difference if referring to how often you will be paid!!

Attempted, also, has two distinct uses in our legal system. Attempted was created in order to punish those who commit a crime that fails. If unable to charge attempted, then things like rape or murder 50 years ago would have to be charged as ‘sexual assault’ and ‘assault with a deadly weapon’ unless the crime was completed. Without ‘attempted’ the perpetrator could not be held responsible for their intent.

But now, the word ‘attempted’ is being used to imply what you might, or might not have done, or even intended. This is not ‘I had a gun, aimed at you, and fired but the gun misfired, thus attempted’. This is ‘I had a gun. I did not show or use the gun but, you were in the room with me when I had a gun. I *could* have tried to kill you’. Remember two months ago when you hit me with that snowball and I shouted at you that I was going to kill you?!? Evidence. Guilty. Prison.

A 2010 article in the WA Spokesman-Review reported that a three-way opinion was given from the WA Supreme Court upholding the conviction of a man in a proactive sting where a fictitious persona was used. There were two dissenting opinions. Justice Richard Saunders wrote then what has become the crux of the problem now…

Sanders said the majority opinion was written in such a way that would make that scenario a criminal offense even though the man realized the situation before any sexual relations could take place.

“Thus, the lead opinion misinterprets (the law) to put those who seek amorous relationships online in peril of attempted child rape charges even where they are neither seeking nor would carry out any sexual contact with a minor,” he said.

Justices Susan Owens and Mary Fairhurst agreed with Sanders’ opinion.

This is the moment, in WA courts, where the word ‘attempted’ changed meaning

6 thoughts on “Attempted sex anyone?

  1. Were you able to FOIA all of the records from the arrest? How about all of the communication leading up to the “sting?” By all means, sue the hell out of them, but what they hate more is sunlight. If you win money, police and prosecutors don’t personally pay. Unless a Federal Judge rules that qualified immunity is forfeit. Suing them in Federal Court, do long as the case survives the initial “motion to dismiss,” gives you a great opportunity to shine light on evil.

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    1. Not sure what records we are talking about to FOIA. If you mean my sons, we already had his records – no one should go to trial if they cannot get their own records!! Yes, we have been, and continue to, shine light on all this SHIT!!!

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  2. Criticism of the attempted charge should take into account the context of prior discussions about intimacy. When such conversations precede a meeting, it’s reasonable for people to assume that was the intended focus.

    Especially when it involves someone who can’t consent or can easily be taken advantage of, like a minor.

    Bringing condoms or other previously discussed items only further strengthens someone’s suspicion. The absence of condoms doesn’t exonerate someone either.

    If someone states they’re underage, it’s important to take their statement seriously, regardless of personal beliefs. The legal standpoint emphasizes respecting such claims, emphasizing the responsibility to err on the side of caution to ensure the well-being of all parties involved.

    Assessing age solely based on visual or auditory cues can be misleading. It’s crucial to rely on explicit information (stated age) and adhere to legal guidelines, recognizing that appearances, voice, and vocabulary may not accurately reflect someone’s age.

    Your son messaged someone who identified themselves as underage, and that’s all I care about.

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    1. yes, I understand that’s all you care about, most likely because you are not invested in any way as to whether my son was entrapped. When it’s your child, parent, or sibling, then I would like to know what you feel is important. But I will entertain your points, as I believe they are valid but incomplete.
      The first thing the person told my son was that they were 18 or over. That too is explicit information. Additionally, is it possible for an adult to explicitly state they are 13? Yes, it defiantly is. Is it illegal? Nope. Additionally, per law, LE is only allowed to offer a criminal act, not to act in any way to encourage/ lure/ entice. What happens after police target someone with no known criminal intent or predisposition is both relevant and irrelevant. It is relevant in that continued ambiguity, such as found in current sting cases, is enticement. What’s not relevant in that once someone states they are not looking for a child, LE has the obligation to step away. They are not, they are encouraging and continuing which is the piece that makes this all entrapment. Only two types of people create ads on adult sites where they claim to be an adult and then quickly switch to pretending to be a child. Those in to role/ age/ dominance play, or LE. Real children on an adult site pretend to be real adults.
      If you are truly interested I am more than willing to discuss all this.

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      1. Thank you for your courage in writing this blog and looking past your pain in order to help others, no matter how painful it is for you. Is there someone I can talk with concerning my nephew’s WA Nanny Net court case and next steps? Court date reset for end of January after a year of continuances and two poor attorneys.

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